Elk said
Can open. Worms everywhere.LOL - And this is why I like you!
The can is open but it’s not worms spilling out.
Reminds me of horse back riding
al
Yeah, I notice our regulars here are very open minded. Especially when we have so many big brains around throwing out ideas and concepts.
erikm said The AC 12 like a lot of other high performance cables is a serious 8 gauge cable.. the current draw from a DS will never really break it in. If you don't have access to a Cable Cooker then you should break in the AC 12 on something that will pull lots of juice through it. The best thing I've found is to use a portable fan on high speed..You will need an adaptor to make this work..something like this:
I have two of those and they work well. Instead of a fan, I use them on the garage refrigerator. Draws plenty of current through the big boys.
I get those kind of adapters with every server I setup. We usually just throw them away. I should cut one down and setup some sort of cable burn-in rig with them.
Ted Smith said I also know some who direct wire their devices into the wall which I think is both morally wrong and short sighted for a lot of reasons, but it is undeniably good for the audioAs a ruminant, I have been chewing on this.
Why would directly wiring an audio component into the wall be any less responsible than all of the other direct wiring we do in our homes and businesses? We direct wire air conditioners, ceiling fans, well pumps, kitchen exhausts, baseboard heaters, etc.
Circuit breakers protect against faults and audio equipment is additionally fused. So what is the downside, other than the bother of swapping components?
It’s only wrong because of the intention of mobility of the device. So even a stove should have a means of disconnect behind it as in outlet and plug. A ceiling fan or of electrical wall heater is ment to be installed permamnetly. Get my point. So it’s abiut UL label or SA labs.
Nothing more. Now why the improvent is beyond me. As a good twenty amp hospital grade outlet can be used up 80% so about 17Amps and barely gets warm no only if the plug gauge wire is such that it’s 14 gauge or sampler . So a ac12 at 8 gauge stays very cool even at high current continues of used for a heater type device . I cannit think of audio doing such a high draw continus except so crazy high power class a amp.
Al
Elk saidTed Smith said I also know some who direct wire their devices into the wall which I think is both morally wrong and short sighted for a lot of reasons, but it is undeniably good for the audioAs a ruminant, I have been chewing on this.
Why would directly wiring an audio component into the wall be any less responsible than all of the other direct wiring we do in our homes and businesses? We direct wire air conditioners, ceiling fans, well pumps, kitchen exhausts, baseboard heaters, etc.
Circuit breakers protect against faults and audio equipment is additionally fused. So what is the downside, other than the bother of swapping components?
I was thinking the same thing but didn’t want to start a ruckus.
You know, I was thinking about lifting safety grounds, not direct wiring. Oops. Still there are failure circumstances where a quick disconnect could be useful.
Luk of lampi makes a switching device I have,try. It’s pretty simple. The theory is this. Not all transformers are would in the same manner . Meaning from left to right or over or under. The concept is it matters. So the device has one input and 5 outputs rectepticals all single outlets. It has a series of SW,s. That change the prlority of the outlets. One is supposed to just flip sw,s. Back and forth until the sound improves. Now given if all devices are made from let’s say ps audio one would think the input transpformwrs would be the same . But this is far from true. And I amnit sure it matters as the ac is converted to dc so why would a little ripple on the dc side have to be in sync. Ted please way and dumb it down for me. Even though I am a list electrical contractor and eclectically egineer you still go Bove my head at times.
Plese ask me questions if I am not understood .
al
Ted Smith said You know, I was thinking about lifting safety grounds, not direct wiring. Oops. Still there are failure circumstances where a quick disconnect could be useful.Yippers. Makes sense. :)
I’m using the JPS Labs Kaptovator AC, but still on my PWD MkII. Compared it to cables from PS Audio (AC12) and Kubala Sosna (Emotion), Shunyata (Python Helix Alpha) and IMHO the Kaptovator is one of the best cables for any source. I can only imagine that on the DS Dac the results will be even more impressive.
Paul McGowan said AC12 is my favorite.Have agree re: AC12. I've been running the old Statement and Plus power cords for many years. Just swapped out the power cord from my outlet to my Quintet from a Statement to an AC12... All I can say is WOW. Even replacing just that one cable has made a tremendous improvement. Imaging, bass, tone, detail, and naturalness of the music coming from my system have all improved significantly. Though not cheap, the AC12's are high performers at their price point.
If you are looking to exonerate thinness and harshness from your system, start with your power cords. The difference is remarkable, and will have as much if not more impact on your system’s sound as IC’s and speaker cables. Power cables unfortunately are susceptible to burnin- they take at least 150 hours of play to open up in my experience.
I also have a dedicated circuit going to one PS Audio power port outlet run with 10-gauge wire straight to my panel, no splices.
Based on my experience replacing just one power cable in my power chain, I have 2 more AC12’s on the way along with a 20-amp Shunyata Zitron Anaconda for my Conrad Johnson Premier 350 amp. AC12’s are going to my preamp and DirectStream. I’ll have to report after they all break in. Also replacing the Quintet with a Dectet.
-Jeff
oddeophile said [nested quote deleted] Shunyata. Incredible cables. Best I have ever used.Ditto.
I bought 2 Kaptovator AC for both my amp and my DSD DAC Psaudio.
Compared to AC12 PS Audio, and Shunyata Zitron Cobra, on both, they sound to me much better, by far :
- Good tensed bass, as with the AC12. An excellent medium & highs, with an incredible level of microdetails (a bit more than the AC12, as much as with the Zitron) … after 1 month break in though.
Last, with PP frmware it just gives amazing results.
When I initially had some doubts between 1.2.1 and PP firmwares, with the 2 Kaptovators, PP sounds to me and my friends just really superior.
Arcus7 said I'm using the JPS Labs Kaptovator AC, but still on my PWD MkII. Compared it to cables from PS Audio (AC12) and Kubala Sosna (Emotion), Shunyata (Python Helix Alpha) and IMHO the Kaptovator is one of the best cables for any source. I can only imagine that on the DS Dac the results will be even more impressive.I confirm it works great on the DSD DAC
I agree, I know this is an older thread, but is there a “best of” floating around somewhere in these forums?
Unfortunately none of which I know.
It’s a good idea…it would be a good “go-to” for various subjects/discussions.
I’ve recently had wonderful experience with the new Audience Forte F3 power cord on my DS Senior. Punches way out of its weight class, particularly at its ~$300 msrp price point. I got mine for $125 as part of cosmetic manufacturing b-stock, and at that price it is a preposterous value, outperforming other cords I’ve used at much higher price points. If you read the few reviews of the cord out there, there are multiple mentions that it bests many $1000 cords, and based on my experience I have to agree. It likely has no peer at its price point and dramatically improved the smoothness, bass, mid-bass, and liquid imaging/soundstage of my DS.