Hey Guys,
Have had the P12 running flawlessly for about 6-8 weeks. Have never seen this issue. I have 3 beefy Parasound amps plugged into it. Anthem AV70 Home Theater pre AMP, a 77 Inch Lg OLED, and an Oppo 4K Player. The readout never shows more them 700 to 800 Watts. The Load at 700-800 Watts shows 97-101%. I thought the unit can handle 1250 Watts? Why would the load be at 100%?
So I have one dedicated 20 Amp Circuit in the room. Not all of my gear is plugged into the P12. I also have a P3 that runs some Stereo Sources.
Thoughts? The P12 shut down and eventually I was able to touch the 4 red outlets and turn them back on. I was playing an XBOX One Game at moderate levels when the thermal error came up.
In the States, the P12 is spec’d to produce maximum continuous of 1,000VA. A Volt-amp is apparent power, not basic watts. It takes into account the type of load.
You are running the P12 very hard. It makes sense it is giving up and playing dead on occasion.
Hey Elk,
I have driven my system hard before. Never had shutdown like this. For instance, I am playing a Hans Zimmer Concert BluRay Atmos Track as we speak. -15 on my Anthem. Music is loud. All the channels are active. The Watts says 560 and load 80%.
VA is not the unit designation for current output. VA is Volt-Amps, often referred to as “Apparent Power”. Apparent Power (VA) is not the same as Real Power, normally expressed in Watts (W) (which is what you are accustomed to).
The relationship between Apparent Power and Real Power is: Real Power = Apparent Power * Power Factor (PF). PF is a unitless ratio, less than or equal to one.
A 1,000 VA device (a P12 for example) is designed to handle 1,000 VA. At a PF of 0.6, that would be 600 Watts. At a PF of 0.9, that would be 900 Watts. It’s entirely dependent on the electrical characteristics of the connected load of your equipment.
This is, you cannot total the watts of your attached equipment and be OK if the total watts is 1,000 or less. The unit is capable of handling 1,000 VA. This can be more or less than 1,000 watts, it depends on the electrical load. Stereo equipment places a greater load on an electrical system.
Hey DarthSimion…which Parasound amps are you using…?
Thermal shutdown…leads me to ask regarding how
much space do you have above your P12…the internal fans
do need some space above the P12 for heat to vent
adequately.
The following thread link shows some very power hungry amps
sources being powered by a P12…
Scroll down through the pictures and you will see power on
initial current surge…and then steady state with the P12
taking it all in stride…
I agree with Elk…you could unplug from your P12 …
perhaps the Lg oled
Best wishes to you in getting the thermal shut down
resolved…hopefully it is something simple…
Wow 2 JC5s on a P12…amazing…and yes the 450 watts
70% load much better,.
Funny…I upgraded to a P15 from a P12 to accomodate
a JC5 which I now have…truly a wonderful amp.
One thing I have experienced early into my new JC5’s
life with me is that occasionally on initial power up …the inrush would shut
down my P15…no problem just press on the on button and P15
would be back on line…
Then the bright idea crossed my mind that given the huge power caps
JC5 might need to be plugged directly into wall for a few days to fully
develop form or what have you the power caps.
A few days later plugged my JC5 back into P15 and all is well no more
shut downs…
Questions may now fly…did my JC5 sound better plugged into wall…?
For a day or 2 perhaps…but when plugged back into P15…the difference
was such JC5 now remains plugged into P15…
Glad to meet a fellow JC5 compadre…they are superb amps.
Also currently have Oppo 205…
David, actually one of my 2 JC5’s is long broken in, the second one is 4-5 weeks old, and has had some use. As far as venting, almost the entire P12 has about 2 Inches of opening on top to breathe. The top off the unit is warm to the touch.
Thank you Dave!
I wish I had the space in my rack for the P15. I just cant fit it. I’m out of space unfortunately. I would upgrade to a P15 in a heartbeat if I had the room.