PMG 512 DAC first impressions

PMG DAC Finally arrived! Had to restart a few times for the display to not read ‘red’ (disconnected) for components despite them being connected (and functional) but am currently facing a conundrum: FIGURED IT OUT, WAS MY INNUOS SETTINGS ERROR

HAD TO SET GO TO ‘AUDIO’ AND SET IT FOR ‘DSD OVER PCM’ (NOT NATIVE DSD OR NO DSD)

The PMG DAC now displays DSD256 and DSD64 accordingly

SOLVED THIS :My DSD files from NativeDSD (DSD256) display as 705.6KHz, and DSD64 display as 352.8KHz playing from my Innuos Zen MK3 streamer’s hard drive… this didn’t happen with the Mk1. Am not going to comment on performance yet….

Congratulations! Enjoy.

so am only a few hours in, but wow! still can’t get qobuz connect to work, but 99% sure that’s on me. SACD (even my poor man’s setup) and Innuos Streamer/HD playback already just wow.

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new PMG DAC update: track sample rate display remains glitchy - sometimes it displays, sometimes not. the off/on to reset band-aid solution works if using the complete power down (back panel button) and waiting at least 30 seconds.

wifi doesnt work for qobuz connect, but am sure that’s my android issue because ethernet works (yes, the ethernet chord was OUT when trying to set up wifi) and am comparing it to the Innuos Streamer, already the PMG DAC direct streamer is nearly the same in quality, wish i had my 3tb of music elsewhere and not on my Mk3, because the PMG is making the stand-alone streamer irrelevant on my system…

soncally, still too early to make fair comment, but wow, this really is an amazing DAC already.

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The remote is just similar enough to have me confused for the next month or so until I can reprogram my muscle memory…. :wink:

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Does the old remote work on the new PMG components?

Quite a few changes here— thanks for posting the photo. With my PST, the track forward and backward buttons are not terribly reliable; it’s much better to punch in a number which won’t be possible with the new remote. Even if reliability wasn’t an issue, if I’m playing track 1 and want to go to track 8, it’s fewer button presses to use the numeric keypad. On the other hand, those of us who have power plants will no longer have to keep track of the small black remote. But since I won’t be upgrading my PST (I’m spinning fewer discs these days), I will have two large, similar-looking remotes.:thinking:

I use a black remote that I believe came with my Mk 1 DSD, that controls the PWT and Mk2 and can also control the P10 and P15. I don’t like the earlier silver one at all.

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I cannot connect Qobuz Connect to my Airlens today, usually works fine. Tidal Connect is working. Qobuz has had some recent issues I believe.

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The old remote did not work with my new equip and vice versa, but could be a setting - can switch channel apparently…

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meditations on the PMG DAC 6 hours in:

NOTE: I spent extra time with my Mk1 prior to receiving the PMG DAC and really loved its presentation of all the genres I favor - and tbh was so wowed again I began to wonder if the PMG DAC upgrade might be unneccesary…
SPOILER ALERT: IT WASN’T!

I already told my wife how much money this PMG DAC has saved us since I will never have to upgrade again - it is that good right out of the box - “Saved? US?” (She’ll understand eventually…).

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here are some first impressions, only a few hours in:

what had once been watered down is now full bodied

fresh sound, like the difference between a crisp iceburg and wilted romaine

‘small’ sounds perfectly represented *

no discernable improvement in bass or drums over mk1 - yet

space exists

breath from human voice more palpable - feel like i could embrace the vocalists (even janis joplin)

*darkest ever background

volume to speakers via amp much lower than with mk1, but controls truly analogue (incremental drop as I dial down, not high to quick drop low vol like had with mk1)

not hearing clearer placement of instruments some have mentioned, yet

using Octave Record’s Reference Music Track 8, I noticed the ‘decay’ is phenomenal - the note delicately drops off with all the purity of true analogue (the little analogue devil on my right shoulder is whispering “you’ve been listening to digital too long now”)

lots of ‘finger pluck’ from acoustic guitars, hearing fingers/picks on strings

love slack key guitar, so switched between DACs listening to Dennis Kamakahi’s “Wahine 'Ilikea” and already felt closer to the live performance than the Mk1 without a doubt, the PMG DAC also brought out more detailed vocals from the same recording

not hearing added weight to pianos (what other instrument can balance off an entire orchestra on the other side?), but def hearing more detail and more accurate highs than my Mk1

ambient sounds more naturally expansive around the listening space - wrote this when listening to synth piece by Thomas LaFond “Slow Moving Ferns” from Octave Record’s Reference Music SACD

more to come…

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Thanks for the input. Was your MKI a modified one?

The PMG DAC surprised me with the amount of time it took to break in but when yours does you will love the tonality it has with pianos and the bass will keep you pinned to your seat.

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oh, and what bottom plate!?

(has become a complete non-issue with me)

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no mods - as is and really loved it

Simple solution and oh so useful for so many other things (a discrete green dot on the album cover indicates a record that has been ultrasonically cleaned AND plays OK.

10000 PCS Small Dot Stickers 1/4" Round Color Coding Labels Circle Dot Stickers Label Sticker in 20 Colors for Office,Classroom

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I’ve just set up my PMG Pre. I told myself, “must remember to take a photo of the bottom plate” … then forgot. And I hadn’t looked either. Now it’s in my rack and all connected up, that is my last priority. Actually, not a priority at all. Just enjoying my new update - a lot.

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Mahalo for that - am already actually thinking the newer remote is also an upgrade.

I’ve had no issues with the new remote and my PMG Pre, even across the length of my room, about 15m I think.

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