If they are reviewed by Soundstage they will get proper measurements at CNRC which is something Amir is not capable of no matter how delusional he is.
No matter what measurements, tests, etc … we have the best measuring instrument ourselves
Use it
Has always worked for me.
Serhan
Unless your a die hard Dyanaudio guy here are three speakers you might want to look at just for fun as they should be more easily found in the EU than in the US.
https://jm-reynaud.com/orfeo-jubile.html?___store=en&___from_store=default
https://rossofiorentino.com/volterra/
I’m a big fan of Reynaud’s and have owned six different models including two now. Have a pair of Rosso’s coming. Reviews of the QLN line have been very intriguing.
Thank you Jack,
Interesting line up, and more interesting, on top of opera greats like Bocelli, Tuscany gives us loudspeakers! Please let us know how it goes with the Florentian Rosso.
At 91 dB w/m Reynaud’s is quite sensitive . I am so used to low sensitivity / power hungry 84s and 86s
Now they do. He has got the automated klippel system. Here is one of such measurements
But he remains controversial as always.
@jvvita That should probably been posted to the humor section
Here’s a nice quote from D’Agostino. Pay attention to the last line.
“Our current designs have absolutely nothing in common with what I did at Krell. When I left that company, I wanted to do something in the completely opposite direction. I’m glad in a way that I was asked to leave, because [the move] provided me with the platform that I could use to do the designs I do today. I think that at Krell we got involved in a numbers game: We can do this better because it measures better, and it does this better. It was more about technology than listening.
But at D’Agostino, we listen a lot.
Listening is the most important thing, not how it measures.”
Was Krell ever considered good sounding in the states except that it was the only amp which could drive an Apogee at the time? I think outside the US it was not (except by the magazines pushing everything advertised).
I have a had a few chats with folks at Dag and they embodied this to a T. They also test the amps with Wilson’s or did in my case. The Dag/Wilson combo is awesome and my top rung. I won’t step up from here and no entering “Al” land. I also heard the Dag Int. on Sabrina Xs. Very good pair their as well.
Thanks for the reply. I don’t think I will buy any D’A amps soon but “never say never.” I do appreciate the passion for the end result that the top end players all have and their ability to ignore the lowlifes and naysayers.
Next month I should be able to get my Sasha’s and BHK 300’s married up. That should be fun! Too many of life’s gotta do’s to get back to the stereo this month.
I honestly don’t know. I just got back into stereo gear a few years ago and the last time I was way lower on the chain than I am now. Someone here should be able to advise on Krell’s reputation here.
Sasha and 300s will be awesome. That’s going to be a killer system.
That is true. But on their lastest review on stereophile, they kind of dropped the ball on this new progression amp. The amp had zero crossing distortion (it is rather elementary to take care of it), high order harmonic distorion one amp had the wrong bias and the VU meters do not represent the actual power output, being just “needles that dance to the music”. Also, polarity inverting.
I am not a measurement freak, but there are some elememtary specs that should be preserved, especially for 45k.
This is the paragraph that defines the review though.
" So . . .
Once the Progression M550s were optimally set up and biased, love at first listen morphed from an infatuation into a relationship.
For anyone who values colorful and glowing amplification that brings natural timbre and the subtlest of details and dynamic shifts to the fore while supplying a breathtakingly full measure of big-picture dynamics, slam, and top-to-bottom frequency response, the Progression M550s must be heard. They are wonderful amps."
As someone who owned two Krell amps and multiple pairs of Apogee speakers, they sounded superb with Apogee’s but equally as good with traditional cone drivers. I used Jeff Rowland pre’s with mine and I had many a friend comment on the sound. Yes they were big and heavy brutes, but they were a reflection of the times where a sledgehammer was used when something smaller and more refined would do, my analogy.
Yes the sledgehammer comparison works for me. My impression was (and somehow still is) that most other serious amps on Krell’s level were better in quite anything except that
Krell amps sound better with tube gear upstream, it gives them a little better midrange bloom.
If you get a chance, try to hear Gryphon/Wilson or especially Boulder/Wilson. In both cases much more dynamic and muscular sound than Dag/Wilson to my ears. Big steps up for many. (Not that I’d kick Dag/Wilson out of bed, lol).
Edit: never mind. I finally figured out your”Al land” comment! Although I was asking myself for 10 minutes “what does artificial intelligence have to do with any of this?” Boulder 2xxx and above prolly Al land or higher (but listen anyway, best I’ve heard - the current generation Boulder, not the older stuff (which was not nearly as good))