Was Upcoming DS release - Now Windom has been released

“The Mythical Man Month” !!! Ted, you/we are showing our age. Every IT person should read this book.

Great quotes from that book:

“The bearing of a child takes nine months, no matter how many women are assigned.”
― Frederick Brooks

“As time passes, the system becomes less and less well-ordered. Sooner or later the fixing cease to gain any ground. Each forward step is matched by a backward one. Although in principle usable forever, the system has worn out as a base for progress. …A brand-new, from-the-ground-up redesign is necessary.”
― Frederick P. Brooks Jr., The Mythical Man-Month: Essays on Software Engineering

Peace
Bruce in Philly

Thinking out loud here (metaphorically):

I wish there was an easy way (like a badge or something) to know whether someone is discussing their Senior or Junior. I just start to wonder if it is relevant to certain discussions. To take two examples - load issues and sonics.

I don’t think separate threads is the answer, nor do I think everyone should have to put an “S” or a “J” in every post. But I am wondering if there are any correlations there.

But this is also true of interconnects, power cords and for that matter everything else in the system.

No, it’s accurate to say than in your system Windom’s increase detail and clarity comes at the expense, which is perhaps too strong a word, of warmth and weight.

Hmm, tho I understand the appeal of multiple versions without waiting for a card to load (tho you’d need a reboot anyway) I maintain that a well balanced system will sound good with any type of music. This is independent of the DS. As a practical matter having two versions of a given OS release to choose from would probably lock people into a given release since there’s no possible way of guaranteeing similar artifacts from noise for multiple releases: if in one release you have two favorite versions, the distinctions you enjoy may well be lacking in another release.

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There may well be correlations.

To my way of thinking there is a DSD, and a DSD Jr. I don’t think S or Senior belongs with the DSD.

Oh, sheesh, L. I guess my point is that people talk about them as DSD’s - whichever one they own. And I’m now in the “I have both” club. For the purpose of the question I’m posing, and for the sake of brevity I was suggesting a discriminator - again, not that I’m saying we should all have to denote with every post.

Part of my reason for this is that I’ve only ever owned a Junior until recently - and have rarely had any load issues, including marathon sessions of loading iterations of Snowmass for testing (though those were PS-made thumb drives). Since getting the DSD (“The Original”), I can’t load Anything that I make on my Macs.

I have a Windows laptop, but rarely use it, I just moved, and have misplaced the PS, so can’t boot it up to try making SD cards with it. So, for me this is my first Real Experience with the whole Load Issue Thing. I now feel y’alls pain.

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B, I am just saying I own a DSD and I’m going to refer to it as a DSD as that is the nomenclature. This “Senior” thing is something I’m not digging, that’s not its name. So going forward know I don’t have a Junior. I have a DSD and will refer to it that way. Peace.

That’s true on the one hand and I didn’t want to isolate the firmware updates here, it was more an expression of my surprise that although I always hear improvements there are others who often hear (also) difficult changes for them.

The difference between cabling and firmware updates for me is, that different cabling has very different overall characteristics while your firmware updates usually clearly just improve technical parameters. That’s why I would have expected that those updates have much less surprising effects than putting in a very different cabling.

Is the Mac unable to format a USB card to MS-DOS(FAT) or MS-DOS(FAT32)? I’ve never owned one so I’m asking. Seems strange that a 4GB SD card formatted to either of those two would be different than the same card formatted in a PC. Perhaps the DS(Sr) has a older input chip than the one used in the DS(Jr).
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Interesting badbeef. I’ve done all the updates using a mac. my old macbook pro was able to format in fat16. I used MSDOS(FAT) on my latest update, since my newer macbook pro does not offer fat16 or fat32 as format option. Update went smoothly.

I suppose I’m stuck in my usual thought process for updating JR. via thumb drive, for which I’ve long used FAT32.

Yes, my Macs can do either - I will have to try Old FAT ; ) I’d gotten the Engineering line from PS, (said with a shrug) “Macs put this little file on there…” I thought perhaps that referred to the set of “. _” files (dot-underscore, or dot-underbar) that do some bookkeeping to maintain compatablility with other sorts of later Mac drive formatting.

So I learned how to delete them selectively using Terminal…to no avail.

I will admit I’ve been working 60 hours a week or so since I bought the DSD, and so haven’t had a lot of time for comparison tests and so on - and so - I’m not 100% sure I’m hearing the “Real Windom”.

Generally amazing, sometimes irritating is how I’d sketch it out at this point. But I also don’t know if I’ve put in the required X hundreds of hours of break-in ; )

Apropos of my earlier post: @cbnbmore and @kylemillsap, what DSD are you guys using? ; )

Dude - don’t be Ageist! ; ) I’m proud to own a “Senior”!:metal:t2::cowboy_hat_face:

Why don’t we refer to the junior as the Stellar Gain Cell DAC? Or the SGCDAC? Or we can call it Johnson.

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You can call me Ray, you can call me Ray-Jay… ; )

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OLDFAT it is! (MSDOS FAT). Literally would not have occurred to me. Thanks all!

I’m not being ageist. My father was a Junior and he never called his father “Senior.” My brother is a Junior and we don’t call my Dad “Senior.” It’s about proper designation. You can do as you wish, but to me “DSD” and “DSD Junior” are clear enough, I haven’t gotten confused nor do I see the need for any other labeling.

More user-friendly names are coming, thankfully. I’ve always found “the PS Audio DirectStream DAC” a bit cumbersome. Hence things get shortened to “DSD” and “DMP” and so on. I will admit I like “Sprout” and “Dave”. No confusion what you’re talking about. Maybe not so much “Yggdrasil”…that goes in the direction of again taking itself seriously, even if it is preceeded by the company’s name, which rather aggressively, doesn’t ; )

KIDDING, lonson. Hence the " ; ) " and other emoji.

Well I am serious, I think calling the DSD “Senior” is unnecessary, and the idea of asking us to sillier still. Hope that’s clear.

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Gotcha - and understood from the get-go. Never intended to suggest that one should Speak the Name aloud or be compelled to Spell it Out. I think its silly as well that it was retroactively named “Senior” - if that’s how it happened. The name was long enough as it was.

It was purely in the context of the post I wrote above wondering if there was a way to easily denote which of the DSDs you are referring to when you post some observation or other. We’re not going to go into everyone’s gear list and make a spreadsheet to refer to every time, so we know who owns what. Just wondering out loud how much of This or That observation is specific to a given DSD Model.

Curious though - in the case of the brother named for your father - how do you differentiate? By the usual “Dad” vs. “Bob”, or is your brother referred to as “(dad’sname) Junior”? Not a fan of that naming scheme either. Always struck me as, “I want everyone to know who fathered my son…or we couldn’t really come up with anything better at the time” :cowboy_hat_face:

In that respect I would wish for the Junior to have it’s own unique, “Sprout”-like name.

I have a brother named for our Father, but rather than naming him Junior, they opted to give him no middle name. So dad became “Paul D.” and Paul is “Paul”.