Where did Brodric go?

In the terms of service, I read this.
company_short_name may terminate your access to all or any part of the Website at any time, with or without cause, with or without notice, effective immediately.
So we are all subject to this and accept it as part of our use of the forum.

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The concern is not about these last resort measures being executed by PS Audio, but about a group of forum members getting so upset about somebody being critical that it had to come this far.

How a group of forum members fortunate enough to be able to afford high end equipment for a hobby, becomes so upset in a hobby forum about somebody being critical puzzles me. Excluding critical people brings some of my history lesson question discussions to mind.

Being confronted with people having a different opinion is part of our life in our free part of the world that we are all so proud of.

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My recollection of most of Brodics comments are that he felt a constant desire to expound his long standing (and past) grievances at every opportunity. I do remember reading some fairly positive posts on occasion of course. I’m fairly new to this party but I must admit I constantly wondered at why he was on here. As I have stated before, there may be extenuating circumstances around why he was suspended on this forum.

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You are doing this with the best of intentions. But do you actually think you are helping Brodric’s situation. The more you harangue and pontificate, the greater the possibility, Brodric could end up serving life without the possibility of parole. Let it take it’s own course. There’s less chance of an early release if you keep this up.

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I used Brodric’s example to express what I feel about some of the group behavior in general.

Fuel for thought in the forum such that it can find other ways to deal with this.

I agree with you that continuing with further comments will not help Brodric’s case and apologize if any of this would bring him into further trouble.

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I hope that this statement would not be supported in any way shape or form by PS audio.

This is interesting, as your quote, leaving out the bit I bracketed, is exactly what I’ve been saying for years. That is the issue I have with someone with an ongoing need to enlighten the rest of us on how we’re being duped in one way or another (we’re not), how their bad product experience Must Be reflective of others’ experience (it is not), how the company should Properly be run (none of our business), how they don’t like the Pricing (don’t buy it), etc. None of this seems to be what this Forum has been about in the past. Those days may be over, I don’t know.

It now seems there is to be an Inalienable Right to be critical of whatever you like, to whatever degree you like, for as long as you like - with the notable exception of criticising a critic.

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Maybe Brodric was confused because of what a “FORUM” by definition represents: "OPEN DISCUSSION"

forum

(ˈfɔːrəm)

n , pl -rums or -ra (-rə)

1. a meeting or assembly for the open discussion of subjects of public interest

2. a medium for open discussion

3. a public meeting place for open discussion

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In other words, @badbeef , if we don’t agree with you or what PS Audio says or does, we should just shut the hell up. In other words, you are telling us that we need to be fanboys or go away.

I would have less issues with Brodric if he didn’t tell his tales of woe every chance he had.

But, telling us that we have no business commenting, positively or negatively, on how PS Audio is run or how they are changing their business model or how it might affect real world pricing, is just wrong. They certainly don’t have to listen to anything customers here have to say, but to discount or ban all comments that don’t tell them how wonderful they are would be mistake.

I know you tow the line and think that PSA can do no wrong. But others don’t see it that way. I think you are more dangerous than people that are willing to be critical of PSA…

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…and Honest…

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I always thought of Mr B. as the conscience of the forum, reminding new people that issues have been occurring for a long time but that usually, if you hang-in they generally get rectified, one-way or another.
Paul once said PS Audio is good on engineering but learning the software side - I’d agree that they are still learning software. There have been a LOT of releases of kit that then takes a long time to get right.
Also, the overseas PS Audio experience is nowhere near as good as the domestic experience.
The gear sounds good, reviews well but can be quirky.

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Whoa, this is pretty charged up, speed-racer.

Look, it works both ways. We certainly don’t require “fan boy” posters. They’re certainly welcome, as are dissenters and people with opinions that differ from our won. It’s what a forum’s all about. We support that. We appreciate it when you offer
a differing view. We listen to what customers have to say and I am not certain where you got the idea we don’t. Hopefully neither you nor anyone else on these forums believes we intend to "discount or ban all comments that don’t tell them how wonderful they
are”. Indeed that would be a mistake and one we haven’t any intention of making.

But, we want to keep the forums informative, fun, and kind. Beef certainly doesn’t think we can do no wrong. Believe me.

What we don’t want and will not tolerate are unkind words, finger pointing, unfounded accusations, name calling, and classifying people as being one way or the other.

I appreciate your contributions to the forums.

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I try to eschew controversy on this site. My work life is plenty difficult and who needs more controversy when it doesn’t involve a paycheck? However, I do opine on occasion.

I never understood @Brodric’s religious zeal to fix PS Audio. He can be annoyingly (understatement) persistent. He doesn’t just make a point, he beats it to death! We all get the message. However, @Brodric (even his user name is gone) makes valid points, in an extremely articulate fashion. I don’t recall name calling or disrespect towards any member (I could be wrong).

Banning @Brodric makes sense. There is a business face to present; however, it is disappointing. There is a liberal ideal expressed by Paul that just died a bit. Ideals are easy but real life is difficult. I’m sorry to see Brodric go.

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No, everything in his account remains intact, as do his posts.

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I apologize, his user name didn’t pop up after the @ sign.

No problem at all.

I suspect the predictive suggestions the forum generates are a function of forum activity and what an individual user has typed in the past.

No worry!!! Mr. B is still being Mr. B… on the ocean blue. :rofl:

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Well @speed-racer, those are some other words, all right - but not mine. Though you’re certainly entitled to interpret them how you like. I think (for once) I stated what I meant pretty clearly in the post above. I just don’t see the need for the anger and doomsaying and so on. And the notion that if we don’t share this anger, we’re either stupid or a fanboy, or both. Some threads lately read like an Angry Stockholders meeting.

I’ve certainly beat this dead horse beyond reason, so I’ll attempt to leave the subject be, and go back to the fun threads.

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Which, of course, has not occurred and will not.

As an easy example, review the 505 posts in the “Is PS audio going direct sale only?” thread. Plenty of non wonderful comments there. :slight_smile: Ditto the various DMP and Bridge threads.

There are many, many easily found examples.

Brodric’s tendency to categorize those who post in tribes was a step too far. At that point it came across as though a surrogate had hijacked his moniker and was posting. Civility goes a long way to make one’s point.

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