Bridge II Update

Could someone elaborate on the Roon cover art issue? Is it just with Macs? Win 10? Note, I haven’t tried Roon yet. Thinking about it since JRiver doesn’t seem to care about JRemote any more.

Thanks!!!

The Roon Cover Art issue is when playing a play list in Roon the DAC does not display cover art for every song.

Dennis

Thanks Dennis. Is it a Mac issue only? Roon forums indicate that it is.

That I am not sure of. I think I have heard people on both OS’s having the issue.

Dennis

I had it on Windows 10 and Nuc I5. Not anymores with the new beta firmware.

And btw, the bridge FW still appears as 0.0.0. in the setup window. Is this Ok?

ridom said I had it on Windows 10 and Nuc I5. Not anymores with the new beta firmware.

And btw, the bridge FW still appears as 0.0.0. in the setup window. Is this Ok?


I’ve seen it take quite some time to get around to display the bridge firmware version on my jr … to the point I gave up waiting and then some many hours later it was there.

Dennis Kerrisk said The Roon Cover Art issue is when playing a play list in Roon the DAC does not display cover art for every song.

Dennis


Hi Dennis,
I’m very interested in DS Junior to use it with Roon.

I beg there is no space for cover art display on the Junior DAC LCD but are the textual “now playing” data (Artist, Album,TrackTitle …) displayed and correctly synched when playing with the current DS Jr / Bridge firmware ?

What are the others data displayed on the LCD ? (Volume, input … ?) and are they user selectable ?

Thank you.

Yes the Jr Will display Track name for a few seconds on track changed then back to volume.

Dennis

Dennis Kerrisk said Yes the Jr Will display Track name for a few seconds on track changed then back to volume.

Dennis


Thank you Dennis.

Only Track title ?

Title scrolling when text is long ?

Any possibilty to recall the title when volume is displayed ?

Track Title and album. No scrolling. No way to display it agian currently.

Dennis

Dennis Kerrisk said Track Title and album. No scrolling. No way to display it agian currently.

Dennis

OK Dennis.

I hope upgraded firmware will ideally enable scrolling when needed and above all a way to choose from volume or “now playing” track info on the Jr LCD display.

Dennis, 2.9.1 so far works for me. No problem with cover art for some time anymore. Hope it stays like that. Guess you probably didn’t intentionally fix anything in this regard, but anyway it seemed to help.

Dennis, using 2.9.1 with Roon (Bridge II and DS). Album art works fine when a song is selected as play now; however, when played from the queue, the album art does not change when it should. In other words, without manual intervention, playlists playing songs from lots of different albums only show the first song’s album art.

Album art in JRiver works pretty much flawlessly. On very rare occasions an error will occur. Just my opinion, it is weird that going from song to song (from different albums) is a thee step process: album art displays correctly, art drops to be replaced by PS Audio symbol, new album art displays approximately 20 seconds later.

Final nit pick. I’ve mentioned it before. Happens in Roon and JRiver. Changing the volume causes the entire screen to refresh. Seems unnecessary IMHO.

I’ve noticed that the latest Roon update seemed to re-enable the album covers on my DS. Running 2.8.8

First full weekend with Roon. Bridge II works very well with Roon: super stable!! Passed all of Ted’s bitperfect tests without an issue. Sounds really good. Album art is a mess. Thought I saw a pattern (see previous post), no pattern that I can tell. Album art just doesn’t work well yet.

when designing the Bridge II, was an SFP network interface considered?

that would allow users to use copper or fiber by just swapping the module…

it would be a great feature for those looking for network isolation! Read many threads about it but can’t trouble myself with all the extra gear involved to do just the optical bridge…

Maybe that’s something to keep in mind for the Bridge III, along with DSD128 support ;o)

The danger is of course that an audio company like PS audio is spending all his money on debugging ‘nice to haves’ like the display screen information. An idea for a next Directstream generation is to skip the display all together and spend the money on audio quality related software or audio chain hardware… For me, it would also have saved me a lot of frustration getting the artwork to work properly. No blame for PS audio though! I love the directstream!

berlin

NB: and may be the average directstream buyer is too old to read anything on the display from ten feet distance, like me!

Berlin said The danger is of course that an audio company like PS audio is spending all his money on debugging 'nice to haves' like the display screen information. An idea for a next Directstream generation is to skip the display all together and spend the money on audio quality related software or audio chain hardware... For me, it would also have saved me a lot of frustration getting the artwork to work properly. No blame for PS audio though! I love the directstream!

berlin

NB: and may be the average directstream buyer is too old to read anything on the display from ten feet distance, like me!


I don’t use the screen really for looking at artwork, and my old eyes aren’t what they used to be, but I do occasionally check it for playback sample rate, and it is vey valuable for checking network operation. I would not want to see the screen disappear unless it contributed materially to sound quality.

With respect to Linvincible’s suggestion about an SFP option for the Bridge, I would second that, although I suspect it’s a small universe of users that would take advantage. Right now, my DS is connected to the local Cisco switch with an intermediary fiber media converter/converter setup. The converter closest to the DS has a linear PSU. This makes for a significant increase in little boxes and wiring.

Linvincible said ....along with DSD128 support ;o)
Yes.

I consider the lack of DSD128 to be one of the greatest failings of the Bridge II. Other than that it is quite good. For whatever reason, they were not able to implement this. It is hard to imagine that it is network data bandwidth, as even DSD128 DOP is well within the capacity of 10Mbit Ethernet, neve rmind the dead common 100Mbit. Perhaps it was internal processing throughput. Only PS Audio engineering really knows.

Oh Well… Maybe Bridge Mk.III :slight_smile:

J.P.