Try putting pure audio Blu-ray into amazon, I have several, Beck, Tears for Fears, Steve Wilson, Rush, with the update few now play were many played before
Yes, 3.06 is a big step backward with blu-ray audio. If thereâs no further improvement Iâll go back to 2.08.
I have several 2Gb cards that I have used for Firmware/OS upgrades on my DS DAC and now the DMP. Some are SD cards and some are Micro SD cards in a SD adapter. Some upgrades have worked first time, but many have not. When I went from V3.04 Beta to V3.06 on the DMP it took me several tries.
First try: Front light flashed like is was updating, but checking the setup screen still showed 3.04 instead of 3.06. Thatâs a sign that something did not go right.
Second Try: Went back to V2.08 and then tried V3.06 again. Front light flashed, but setup still showed V2.08.
Third try: Did a complete re-format of the card with V3.06 on it (not just a Quick format) as FAT. Still failed to update correctly (showed V2.08).
Try 4: Did a complete format of a different SD card and copied the V3.06 files to it. Success. The setup screen now shows V3.06.
In my experience, the best chance for success involves the following steps. I am using a PC with Windows 10.
- Download the Zip file from PS Audio and store it on my PC in a folder that I create for that release, so as not to get files confused with other releases.
- Unzip the Zip file using the 7-Zip utility into the same folder as the Zip file.
- Insert the 2Gb SD card into a card reader.
- Open File Explorer, right click on the drive letter for the SD card and chose Format. Leave the File system as FAT, Uncheck Quick Format and click start. This takes a couple of minutes.
- Select all of the Unzipped files (not including the Zip file), right click and drag to the SD card and choose Copy.
- Right click on the SD card drive letter and choose Eject. Remove the SD card after it says it is safe.
- Power off the DMP with the back power switch. Remove to current SD card and replace it with the SD card with the new Firmware.
- Turn on the AC power switch in back. You should see the front blue power/standby button flash for a while, then the Initializing screen, followed by the Eject icon.
- Go to the setup screen and make sure that it shows the new Firmware version. If not, then this is a sign that something did not go right.
- After getting the correct firmware number on the Setup screen, power off the AC switch in back. Replace the Firmware update SD card with the SD card that stores track lists and cover art.
- Turn on the AC power switch in back and wait for the DMP to boot. This also accomplishes the Cold restart after an update that is sometimes needed.
NOTE: If something doesnât sound right after an update, try downgrading to a lower Firmware number and upgrading again.
For me the best chance of success seems to be in step 4, the complete reformatting of the SD card to remove all traces of previous files before copying the new files to the card. I have tried simply deleting any previous files (which simply marks them as deleted) and/or doing a Quick Format that essentially re-writes the table of contents. Neither seem to be as effective as doing a full complete re-format that wipes out all previous content.
Hopefully this will be of help to those having trouble doing their own Firmware updates, and perhaps give PS Audio a clue as to why some updates donât work as they should.
Idea for Blu-ray Audio and DVD-Audio discs: Since each disc can have its own menu for how to navigate to the screen where you can press play, would it be possible to do the following?
If the disc is identified as Blu-ray or DVD Audio, then display a set of cursor arrows on the touch screen. Pressing each arrow would emulate pressing the arrow keys on a Blu-ray remote (up, down, left, right) and send the appropriate signal to the drive, thus allowing you to navigate the menus. The user would need to write down the correct key presses for each disc. Once they have navigated to the correct place on the disc menu, press play.
This may not be the most elegant solution, but if it allowed the disc to be played in the DMP, then that would be an improvement.
Question: The three hash marks followed by an eighth note and a number underneath at the upper right of the screen appears to be an attempt to allow selecting between multiple audio tracks. In my case, sometimes it responds and mostly it does not, but I donât recall ever seeing anything from PS Audio to confirm its purpose.
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Inconsistent behavior requiring a cold reboot to fix: I have a theory that the inconsistent behavior that happens over time may be caused by variables in the code that do not get reset between discs. If it is not being done already, I would recommend resetting all code variables (type of disc, track list, table of contents, etc.) each time the disc tray is opened so that there is no accidental carry over of any information for the previously loaded disc.
To users who are baffled by what seems to be inconsistent behavior between units, keep in mind that things like loading different discs in different order, and pressing different buttons on the remote could be causing the code that controls everything to go down different paths, some of which may be causing incorrect behavior. In other words, you are doing something that someone else is not.
The more specific you can be about the exact sequence of what you did before the problem occurred, the better chance the programmer has to find and correct the problem. It is most helpful if you can determine an exact set of steps that is repeatable that produces the problem every time. That is not often easy, but it gives the programmer the best chance of finding the problem and getting it fixed.
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Very thoughtfully presented and a great insight.
This is a rudimentary tool for navigating groups on DVD-A and BD discs. It works in some cases but mostly not. Also be aware that the bit depth and resolution displayed on the DMP do not correspond to what it is actually playing for DVA-A and BD titles, so donât use it as a guide for navigating groups. Additionally, for these types of discs, the displayed track number frequently does not have anything to do with the actual track playing. So, just ignore the display and use the Force for guidance. Or examine the unit in more depth for further enlightenment.
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I will second that advice. I have been following essentially the same protocol you describe since I bought my DSD 3 years ago, but with both 2GB and 8GB SD cards, and have not experienced the update hassles that others have. (seems appropriate to insert a hearty knock-on-wood here).
Doing a reformat on the SD cards just seemed like good digital hygiene to me.
Just updated to 3.06 and I am hearing extra clarity on my SACDs. Another winner so far.
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You are probably hearing what I am hearing with my SACD library after updating to 3.06.
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Good idea but part of the problem is the Oppo OS doesnât provide us with the info we need to populate a menu screen like that.
Indeed, Bill. Thank you. This may prove to be very helpful.
Yep. Spinning a few more discs this morning. A noticeable improvement.
Digital is a funny thing. Even software changes to a transport make a nice difference. I guess properly feeding the digits matters as much as converting them.
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I reread two threads last night, dozed off several times, I feel very old, if I missed this discussion point, apologies. When updating firmware, are the DSMP or DSDACâs memories cleared completely, similar to a reformat before loading firmware? I am not tech knowledgeable, so guessing, but want to learn.
I am not suggesting any kind of âmenuâ screen. Just icons that would be equivalent of up, down, left and right arrows, and probably an Enter button on an Oppo remote. I would think that you should be able to send the equivalent of remote control keys, the same way that you have icons for Play, Pause, Stop, Eject, Next and Previous track. It would be up to the user to figure out what sequence of keys is needed for each disc to get to the point where it can be played.
Things to try for playing Blu-ray Audio and DVD-Audio discs with V3.06 firmware.
I have a Blu-ray Audio disc of Handelâs Messiah (Christopher Hogwood on Lâoiseau-Lyre) that I have been able to play on the DMP. After loading the disc, I wait until it shows the Pause Icon (oddly not Play) and 48k (even though it is 96k/24 bit). Then I press what I call the soundtrack icon once, Peanut_Butter calls it a tool for navigating groups, and wait a few seconds and it starts to play. Once it starts to play, Play/Pause work, and I can select individual tracks from the DMP track menu and use Next/Previous track on the screen or remote to change tracks, but the remote number keys do not work. It does not show on my Playlist.
DVD-Audio discs
I have 4 DVD-Audio discs and the following seems to work to start Playback.
Load disc and wait for 24 to show on the display. Press soundtrack icon once and wait for 96k to show and blink to Pause and back to Play icon. Press play. When started this way, Next/Previous track and selecting a track from the on screen track menu work. If play is initiated by other screen presses, you may lose audio when changing tracks. Discs play at 96/24.
My discs are Diana Krall - When I Look Into Your Eyes, Jane Monheit - Come Dream With Me, Jane Monheit - Never Never Land (CD/DVD-A flippy), Take 6 - Take 6.
Thanks for the attempts to decipher those discs and touchscreen keys. The touchscreen icons have never been added to the manual, though that issue was raised almost a year ago.
It is reading the DSD layer and converting it to PCM and downsampling it to 24 bit 88.4 khz. this is how it presents the DSD layer to a non PS Audio DAC. I have the same bug and it clears with a reboot. However it will come back after playing a bunch of Redbook CDâs only to require another Reboot to clear it up again.
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Actually this has not happened to me since the one reboot I did a week and a half ago.
Itâs been pure DSD all the way with my SACDâs and lots of RB CDâs along the way.
Same hereâŠâŠâŠ Yesterday I tried to repeat the problems that sixpack1experiences but my DMP works faultlessly with CDs and SACDs⊠Weird all the ups and mostly downs associated with the DMP - almost bespoke to each DMP.