if we have wavestream we don’t need elyric. will it be there for the mac any time soon?
"The PerfectWave Bridge makes high-end fun again without any performance compromise whatsoever and removes the need for the DAC to be connected to a computer allowing music lovers the world over to enjoy their digital audio collections with uncompromised performance at the touch of a finger."
mmmm…removes the need for the DAC to be connected to a computer?? not true!!!
Since it’s not capable to decode ALAC 24bit/96khz , i am obliged to still use my iMac , if i want it sounds better (for wav transcoding results)!!!
@admin I’m not sure I agree with this position. I can only speak for myself, but I remember when I made the decision to buy the PWD & bridge. I watched your video and thought, wow that’s really cool. I can use this eLyric software to access all my music. Prior to this, I was one CD at a time. This purchase was a huge commitment for me. I had never purchased a piece of equipment that was this expensive before, but I liked the concept so much I took the plunge. As some have mentioned, eLyric was sold as the centerpiece of the system. It controlled everything. That’s what I thought too. Look, its a moot point now. If it didn’t work, it didn’t work. I’m not holding that against anyone, stuff happens, but don’t change the storyline now and say we were never selling that. I think its just time to accept it for what it is and move on in a different direction.
@capzark Actually, if you do a Google search on the number of problems IOS7 caused apps you’ll be surprised at how much carnage is out there. Most apps had trouble, including ours. If you have IOS7 on your iPad, the app should absolutely launch if you have the latest updates. If it isn’t, try a hard boot on the iPad. Works just fine now for most. Let me know if you need some help.
The reason I don’t want to pull it now is the updates. As people update to IOS7 they will need the new eLyric app update for it to work. If i pull the app now there will be no way to update them. The app works just fine on IOS7 for most, including all the iPads and iPods in our company.
I don’t want to cripple anything. I think it’s prudent to wait a few months before doing this. Perhaps we’ll put a note up on the Apple App store not to purchase the app as new and keep it up just for updating purposes.
I will put up a list of apps that work well with our system.
@capzark There’s no question you are correct. The app was the center piece of how we sold this product because it was the part that touched everyone. It was in my mind to be exactly that and to many, it still is. I for one, and many I know, continue to use eLyric as the center piece of our own systems. I will probably continue to do so, as I don’t experience all the problems others seem to have. Yes, it occasionally pisses me off when it crashes, but otherwise it’s a fairly good app.
The PWD system is our pride and joy, the best we make. I think we all just want the best for us and our systems and I will do whatever it takes to make this a good investment and a continuing success.
That we finally have to admit the difficulty of making and maintaining a great working app eludes us (and we never even launched an Android version), is not something any of us are happy about. Least of all me.
@admin Agree, and I do love the PWD. It’s a wonderful piece of equipment. Too bad software can be such a pain. Thanks for providing other options. Looking forward to the best solution.
Gordon said: Why not release it into the wild and perhaps some young energetic code writer will revive and continue it.
A wonderful idea, but PS Audio cannot do this unless the programmer releases his interest in the software. It is not open source.
capzark said: Its hard to believe that a software upgrade from Apple would just kill this thing outright.
Unfortunately, this is not uncommon. OS upgrades are often not backward compatible. This is true of both Mac and PC OS. Even Apple's and Microsoft's software is not necessarily backward compatible, much less that offered by third-parties. It is unfortunate by-product of moving forward.
Paul why not freeze the current app and launch an elyric-hd app for perhaps 20 dollar (just like songbook did)!
Then you create some money to invest in the new app!
Now i feel that PS audio let us standing in the cold!
The other solution to enjoy music without all these problems is to invest in a mac mini with ssd.
In this case the mac is a quiet server (it is high end or?).
The cost of this is at least 1000 dollar.
My thoughts on the state of eLyric controller…
Keep the current version of eLyric controller in the app store and rename it eLyric7, eLyric HD or something similar and restrict its installation to iOS 7. State clearly in the description that it is compatible only with iOS 7 and that there are no plans to update it to work with any new version of iOS that breaks it.
Publish the previous version of eLyric controller that worked with iOS 6 and earlier and name it eLyric456 or something similar to indicate its compatibility with these earlier iOS versions. Restrict its install to these iOS versions and clearly state in the description that this is only for these iOS versions, does not work with iOS 7, is published to support users of these older versions and that NO UPDATES to this app will be forthcoming.
Unless Apple is (very probably) opposed to publishing separate similar apps for the purpose of supporting old iOS versions…
J.P.
Excellent suggestion. I hope Apple will allow this.
@elk that’s wishfull thinking i’m afraid!
If possible create an intelligent app that detect the IOS version and changes the mode.
I don’t know why but today ( since install) the new elyric detects the PWD at once.
And i have to admit when it is runnig it is the best controller app i tested till now.
We’re making progress on the PWD/Bridge internal webpage as requested.
Don’t get too wiggy on me, because it takes time to do what we have to do to put this in a release.
But just thought you’d all be interested.
Attached files 
Excellent suggestion. I hope Apple will allow this.
The Linn kinsky is in two version in the App Store, so i think it is no problem
@admin
Fantastic. This feature along with JRiver, JRemote, and someday Wavestream will make streaming audio across a network, for me, as perfect as can be expected!!!
@amiglic
Hi using j remote and jriver media centre as the DLNA server without wavestream operates very well too. The only shortfall in functionality is gapless, otherwise this configuration ofer stable operation. WaveStream to resolve gapless play back is the most significant reason PS Audio is developing this software driver to assist streaming to a Bridge connected PerfectWave DAC
Sorry only a community leader can add you into the beta team, you can make request, I’m not sure of the teams compliment of testers is full or requires more
One example of how quirky eLyric can be. The iOS7 version has worked okay for me since release. Tonight I tried loading eLyric on my iPad, just to check if SRC was in native-x mode (use jRiver exclusively to play music): eLyric wouldn’t highlight PWD. Reset UPnP server on iPad by selecting PWD IP on iPAD. Could now see PWD on iPad. Tried running eLyric on my iPhone: PWD would not highlight. Now tried resetting UPnP on iPhone: could now see PWD on iPhone but not iPad. WTF?
@admin I'm not sure I agree with this position. I can only speak for myself, but I remember when I made the decision to buy the PWD & bridge. I watched your video and thought, wow that's really cool. I can use this eLyric software to access all my music. Prior to this, I was one CD at a time. This purchase was a huge commitment for me. I had never purchased a piece of equipment that was this expensive before, but I liked the concept so much I took the plunge. As some have mentioned, eLyric was sold as the centerpiece of the system. It controlled everything. That's what I thought too. Look, its a moot point now. If it didn't work, it didn't work. I'm not holding that against anyone, stuff happens, but don't change the storyline now and say we were never selling that. I think its just time to accept it for what it is and move on in a different direction.
I agree, and I am also happy to pay 20 or 50 usd for a PRO version.
. . . even usd 100 for a working PRO / HD version of eLyric is acceptable for me . . .
The reason I discuss my software issues on this forum is an attempt to convince all who read here that PSA is not a very good software company but a fantastic hardware company. I love my PWD and have put up with lots of its quirks because it sounds fantastic. Listening now to the newly released Miles Davis mono Sketches of Spain. Just a redbook CD I ripped: fantastic. I have a very nice analog set up and of course still play records. However, I haven’t bought a new record in months; on-the-other-hand, my HDtracks purchases have gone through the roof.
I work in a small company. We have learned to utilize our resources (money and time) to support what were good at and let others do what we’re not good at.
$0.02, Dale
eLyric wouldn't highlight PWD. Reset UPnP server on iPad by selecting PWD IP on iPAD. Could now see PWD on iPad. Tried running eLyric on my iPhone: PWD would not highlight. Now tried resetting UPnP on iPhone: could now see PWD on iPhone but not iPad.
I experienced the same issue here. Finally got eLyric running again by resetting the server, but if you reset on the iPad the iPhone goes dark and vice-versa. You have to reset the UPnP each time you switch from one to the other.
Quirky for certain, but I've tried about 3 other controllers so far and while all of them work, none is better than eLyric in regards to the overall interface and what they can. Waiting for the list of preferred controllers that Paul will be posting soon. I'm probably overlooking the best ones.
Update - just got both of them working together now (iPad and iPhone). Honestly, I think a lot of this is just the nature of UPnP and home networks. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Not certain its a whole lot better with other controllers either?
I know I'm being redundant here, but I really don't think eLyric is that far off from being fixed. Maybe a few more tweaks and....