When my Beeswax fuse blows, I will cut it open and see if they really put beeswax in the fuse.
This is another place where measurements would be nice. Is there I,proved resistance or inductance? Over such a short distance it’s hard to believe it would be measurable. If it makes that big of a difference in the sound, then showing a frequency graph with and without their fuse would easily capture the differences people are describing. I have better grade interconnects and power cables, so I do buy into the proposition that these changes can make a palpable difference. I just wish manufacturers would provide measurements to make it easier to make an informed decision.
Maybe spread it on a cracker fir a taste test.
What physical or electrical characteristic(s) do you recommend fuse makers measure and publish in order for folks to understand how and why a particular fuse will sound better or worse in their systems?
I wonder if beeswax from Africanized bees will be the best.
Perhaps good ole earwax…might even be better …
Naw …just make it carnuba wax…polishes the 'lectrons
real good so they flow wave along more smoothly…
No disrespect intended but (a) what does that look like to you? and (b) how are you going to determine that stuff is actually beeswax?
So, Joe, you are saying it is none of our beeswax?
Ok…how about wax on wax off…
For this to work…need to polish all the electrons to reduce
friction as much as possible
Better yet…how about an electron polisher that polishes them
so that they will be super slick…and flow better…
Perhaps a grease version of slick 50…
Full syntehetic?
Hmmm…which SAE weight would you choose?
0-20 for winter, 10-30 for summer, and WD40 for punk rock!
Wonder if di-lithium crystals might work?
Aw, C’mon guys, this is some serious stuff. A few drops of this stuff cost $240. Any wax this expensive has got to sound incredible.
May be white truffle and saffron flavored wax will really kick butt!
I have been following this thread on and off. Based on my experiences aftermarket fuses do make a positive difference but it’s been years since I dabbled beyond Hi-Fi Tuning and AMR. The main negative to me besides price was that they seemed to blow more often than generic fuses which supposedly have a 10% tolerance.
Given that, I would continue and still do use them. If I hadn’t stripped one of those teeny-tiny screws on the DS DAC I would have used the Hi-Fi Tuning Supreme fuse I ordered for it. I know that HFT is “old school” nowadays but then so am I.
The sound improvement I hear most people attribute to better fuses should be easily measurable in the frequency domain: fuller bass clearer highs. Maybe some sound improvements come from lower noise floor, which would be measurable as signal to noise ratio. Pick a reference amp and show these measurements with the stock fuse and the audiophile fuse. If there is no measurable difference, then I’m skeptical about these being audible differences.
Gotcha.
I thought you were frustrated with a lack of published measurements of the fuses themselves.
Frustratingly, as far as I know, frequency response measurements and signal to noise ratio measurements are pretty finicky and unreliable in predicting how a piece of kit, or anything else, sounds in a given signal chain.
For the record, I am a fuse agnostic. I have no direct experience with after market, “better” fuses. (They are on my list to explore, however.)
That said, I have come to rely on my ears to tell me whether a new piece of Hi-Fi equipment or any other change to my system(s) makes a difference (for better or worse).
Unfortunately, it seems like most measurements, short of those telling you how (“unharmonically”) noisy something is, seem to be poor predictors of how something will sound in one’s system.
Cheers.
Yes, I’d like the fuse company to publish metrics. If they are selling their fuses on the basis that your system will sound better, then I’d like some evidence. Is anyone spending $150 on a fuse because it provides better protection.
I agree that they can’t say how it will sound in other systems, but they could select a well respected reference system, like a Pass labs amplifier, and show metrics for the stock fuse vs their fuse.
I, too, try to rely on my ears but humans are subject to all sorts of cognitive issues. There have been studies that show if you put the cheap wine in the expensive bottle then it is consistently rated as better. There was even a study that showed that interviewers more likely to favor a candidate if the interviewer was holding a warm beverage than a cold one. As much as we try to not fall into these traps, we just can’t do it. That’s why double blind tests and measurements are the standard of scientific proof.
Still, $150 may be a small enough amount of money to make sure you’re getting the most out of an expensive piece of equipment.