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My wife need to be convinced .
Thanks for your reply.
I’m uploading my security cam photo ( a distorted view angles )
The living room is open to the kitchen and dining area. I’m sitting in the close LaZboy Recliner .
as said before - a big deep rug (with some thick underlay underneath it)
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Do you have doorstoppers on your BHK‘s or are those more sophisticated devices?
With that potential SPL in the room the extra weight prevents the high gloss MDF top panels from dancing I guess.
Tough room and wall to work with.
Off the top of my head, based on your security cam photo, I see a few things I would try that are different than your configuration.
These suggestions are based on my experience with my room and the impact of walls, reflective surfaces and furniture:
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I would move the speakers out in front of the AV cabinet away from the right side wall and away from the left front glass half-wall. Start with the left speaker so that the tweeter is moved to the right far enough such that the glass is not behind it and have the speakers facing straight ahead. (If you play with positioning of your components a bit, you should still have them in a line of sight you like. But I would not be afraid to have the speakers in front of them a bit - so long as any necessary remote angles still work.)
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Don’t worry about the speakers being equidistant in relationship to your seating position. Instead, focus on getting a solid center image when listening to stereo. Then experiment with side-to-side and toe-in positioning to flesh out your soundstage.
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I would move the subwoofer to the right and place it toward (but not all the way in) the front-right corner and have the driver facing such that it fires across your main listening position.
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I would swap the love seat for your current listening chair and place it such that one of the seats is your sweet spot. Move the recliner rockers to off-axis positions where they allow viewers to watch T.V. - one near where the love seat was and one kind of by where your “3 meters” arrow points in your picture.
I really think getting the speakers out into the space more and the left speaker out from in front of the window will help the most, coupled with corner reinforcement of your subwoofer.
Have fun experimenting.
I bought 8 for my audio room and 8 for our house. We have Roomba’s and this keeps the doors open for them. They have a tendency to shut themselves into the room they’re cleaning.
The door stops are there to remind me not to take this hobby too seriously and to laugh at myself occasionally
Please do keep us informed of your progress.
If you are happy with the bass performance, I would leave them where they are. You have equidistant measurements to the listening position, etc, which Focal recommends.
I would agree with those who suggest a rug.
You can experiment with the floor before you invest in a rug by placing large towels on the floor in front of the speakers. The bigger the towels, the better.
PS–LOVE the MAC stuff.
I am agreeing with @scotte1 synopsis above, with some additional recommendations. First find a few testing tracks that have consistent and clean bass with varying tones. I found many Ray Brown tracks are good for this. E.g. his Soular Energy album or either of the Super Bass albums.
1. Have a modular attitude. I have found that the best sounding set up might not be the best looking set up in the room. For all the time we spend evaluating getting the best sound I don’t think it is a big deal to spend a few minutes to dial in a great setup for prime listening. Accordingly, I have taken a modular attitude with my living space with a good looking set up and a serious listening set up that requires maybe 3 to 5 minutes of furniture and speaker movements to get from one setup to the other. My guess is that your best 2 channel set up will have a much different ideal positioning than your surround sound set up. I would be biased to understanding what is the best 2 channel set up.
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Find the best bass sound and bass nodes around the listening spot. For testing purpose remove the recliner out of the way and use one of your dining chairs to more easily determine the best listening spot. After you are done with the testing phase you can move either the recliner or the love seat to the best spot if possible. Note that you may find the best spot is further back in your dining room as I believe you are going to find that pulling your speaker further out into the room will help them with sound staging.
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Bass Nodes and bass treatments. I tell me friends that starting with the bass is the starting point for the floor of a clean soundstage. Bass nodes are very room dependent and can show up in funky places and they end up goofing up the mid and treble sounds. Accordingly, understand that your listening position may be more important than your speaker position when it comes to clean bass. Play around with both your listening position and don’t forget the height of your listening position. My guess is that your front right corner would be an ideal spot for bass treatments or a tube trap.
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Subwoofer position and height. I also have found that lifting a sub of the floor on a firm table or subtrap can make your sub interact with the room better. Bass waves are omnidirectional and lifting the sub off the floor .5 to ,75 meters probably places it closer to a better spot with an 2.75 meter high room and the vertical room nodes.
5. Diffusing or Absorption Treatment on your Right Wall. You should probably play around with diffusing or absorbing the first order reflections on the right side wall to help equalize the fact that you have an open space on the left side of your set up. My gut instinct is diffusion would be better than absorption. Use the mirror on the wall process with a friend to find the first order reflections of your speakers.
Good luck on your listening journey.
Also forgot that a mono recording is handy to use to help determine if your center stage is properly set up. Solo female or male vocalist from the early 50’s is usually sufficient.
+1 on adding a large wool rug.
… With an open weave (not plastic) backing. And beneath that wool rug with the open weave backing, a 1/2" thick felt (not sponge) underpad.
RE: Pioneer Plasma TV. I used to own a Pioneer Elite Plasma and now use an LG OLED. The OLED display is fantastic when it comes to black levels, color accuracy, etc. Highly recommended for the visual upgrade of your system.
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in my opinion , The plasma can display more Natural picture , Sometimes when I’m deeply in a movie I feel that the actors so close to me that I need to offer Cup of Coffee with a cake …
Congrats on your setup!
I have a 4k LG OLED and love the resolution and color. There is a fantastic realness to skin tones. Do keep in mind that OLED tv’s do suffer from burn-in, so stay away from colored static logos. Red static logos are the worst offenders, with yellows and greens not too far behind.