FR30 Set Up, Tweaks and Burn In

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I have compared the Gala’s to Mapleshade’s brass footers and came to almost the same conclusion noted above. Gala’s sounds a bit muffled next to the brass footers. The bass is tighter and more powerful, and richer more focused images.

Here’s what Mapleshade have to say about the brass footers.

[The footer’s mass, shape and, most importantly, material all make a big difference. We’ve tested every promising high-tech material: ceramics were too bright; titanium, carbon fiber, stainless steel, myrtle, aluminum and ebony were dull and smeared compared to brass. Our proprietary alloy brass was by far the best-sounding footer material: much more dynamic, vibrantly warm, and more detailed. Take advantage of our money back guarantee and make your own comparisons against other footers, even ones costing 10 times more.]

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I had a similar experience but I think deciding which is best is use case and system specific.

I replaced the stock stainless steel footers of my loudspeakers (they are heavy and shaped to a shallow point on the bottom for placement in discs or directly on the floor) with Gaia’s.

They sound great/better, so long as the speakers rest on my 5” thick maple blocks which have been fitted with spikes and discs, which contact the floor. My floor is carpeted and suspended over my garage, by the way.

When I put the OEM footers back on the loudspeakers and set them on the discs on top of the blocks and replaced the maple block footers and discs with the Gaia’s I recall a softening of the sound and a loss of clarity and bass “snap”, for lack of a better description.

This led me to conclude the Gaia’s might not be best for carpeted surfaces.

FWIW.

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I’m a long time Mapleshade user, though I’m very happy with the stock feet on my FR20’s which are similar to Mapleshade cones…for those interested, Mapleshade makes different cones for use on wood or carpeted floors…

I think there has been some great discussions on various after market footers and their impact on the sound of the FR speakers vs. factory footers.

I think it would great if everyone would describe the type of flooring they have (ie. carpeted, hardwood, carpet on hardwood or concrete, etc.) and just as importantly, if the speakers are on a suspended floor (eg. 2nd floor of house) or on a concrete base floor (eg. basement or condo). Different types of footers work better depending if they need to decouple the speaker from the flooring (eg. suspended floors) vs. grounding them into the flooring (eg. concrete floors).

I found the Gaia’s to be very good for decoupling from suspended wooden floors to reduce boominess and tighten up the bass and found they have less impact on concrete flooring.

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For what it’s worth, the stock feet on the aspen FR20 and FR30 are a milled H90 brass with a satin nickel finish plated on them.

We didn’t put a sharp tip on these because brass is fairly ductile and will blunt/mar pretty quickly.

On the FR10, we are doing a stainless steel tip and screw (with comolded rubber around it). because there was some requests for a sharper carpet spike.

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Finally received email from John of Cable Co. that the Herbies Giant Cone Titanium Gliders will be shipped out on Wednesday, but I’m traveling on the following week so I’m not sure they will get here in time. I was looking forward to use stock footers on top of these to compare with XSSH steel/ceramic ball footers that I am using now. These sounded excellent with FR30 but I hope Herbies Titanium can improve even more.

I continue to prefer just slight toe in on FR30. In sweet spot they are pointed about one foot away from my ears, they are measure 60” from front face to the front wall. On the fourth week the SQ is getting better than last week. I played a few song tracks from last week, and I’m surprised how much better I’m hearing now. Everything opens up and sounding fuller too.

I found my end speakers, unless PSA comes up with FR50 in future.:grin:

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Half of my system was shut down for two weeks, and the system was turned on only a few hours ago so it is still in recovery.

But I could not resist. I replaced XSSH footers with the original footers and placed Herbies Giant Titanium Gliders under. They look like this:

These fit FR-30 footers well, and the look is nice. I really like the sound too. Even with a few hours of warming up, these gliders have tightened up the bass, and the vocals become even more realistic. Another plus is they have furniture-slide bottom so I can move the speakers easily.

I am sure they will help the whole lineup of PSA speakers.

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I also use Herbie’s titanium gliders under my Fyne F703s to great effect…

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Now I have more than four weeks of break-in on FR30 (I came back from a two-week vacation), my final (okay, current) position is they are 8.3’ apart and 6’ out from the front wall. With the new Herbies Titanium Giant Gladers, I seem to need even less toe-in than before. When they toed-in more I needed to adjust the treble level from three to two in the back, but there is a reduction in soundstage fullness as a result. Of course, my preference and the room are different from anyone else.

These speakers sound very neutral and come with ultra-high resolution when set up correctly. The listening experience is just incredible!

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Donald, is that measured from the front baffle? And could you remind us of the room size and how far away you are from the speakers? Thanks!

Yes, they are measuring 6’ from the front baffle, the room is 14’ wide and 33’ deep. The ceiling is sloped from 8’ to 14’. My listing position is about 10’ from speakers. Obviously I will have even better soundstage if they’re moved out more. However, I don’t have total control on their placement.:laughing:

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My room is abt same size but it’s an L shape such that there is a 15 ft kitchen opening on the side of the left FR30, which I’m sure is not ideal. Spkr spacing and distance from front wall is similar.

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My FR20’s are 7’-3" from the front wall (center of tweeters).
11’-3" apart (center of tweeters).
Listening position is 10’-4" from the face of the tweeters.
Listening position eye height 37", ear height 35.5" from floor, center height of tweeters 35.5" from floor.
Listening room is 17’-3" wide x 30’-6" long, but the back portion of the room is wider.
Tons of magic and wide soundstage.

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I wish you could be a little more precise with your setup measurements. Lol

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And I’m one of those people that prefer to listen and not measure, LOL

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Interesting. If that 10’ is as measured from listening position to the (each) speaker then you’re right on Jim Smith’s recommended 83% rule. :nerd_face:

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Very close since I measured .82 the last time! But I don’t have my head tied to the seat to be exact.:laughing:

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Yeah, I’m not hard and fast set on any of those rules either. Starting points only…

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Josh of Stack Audio is friendly and quick in responding to my question: Which AUVA footer should I use for FR-30, AUVA70 or 100? Here is his reply:

Paul Rigby (The Audiophile Man) describes the difference between both iterations well in his side-by-side review:

“Differences, if any? Lots is what I’d say! But hear this, moving from the 70s to the 100s is to move from excellent hifi to truly high-end HiFi. And I mean top-of-the-line. It’s like moving from an exceptional boron cantilevered cartridge to a cartridge packing a sapphire or even diamond cantilever. That sort of standard.”

Source: AUVA ISOLATOR FEET FROM STACK - The Audiophile Man

AUVA ISOLATOR FEET FROM STACK
Arriving in two flavours, Paul Rigby reviews both the lower-cost AUVA 70 and higher-cost AUVA 100 isolator feet

Great topline speakers like FR-30 will benefit more from AUVA100.
I just put in my order for 100 and I should receive them by the end of week.

I have a one-week-old set of 8 Herbie’s Giant Titanium Glades that I plan to unload. If anyone is interested, I will let them go for $250 including shipping. These are excellent for FR-30 or 20, and the price is quite reasonable. But I have a feeling AUVA 100 would probably sound better (with four times more cost).

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